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Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

I mean this universe's version of html probably has all sorts of different symbols in it

gellaho

Luckily, the Indian girl was somehow able to make it through Nazi territory unscathed

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

symbols which have existed for thousands of years even

gellaho

The scientist brought back weapons from 2066

Velo-ing

You mean the Hypertext-Auszeichnungssprache?

FancyShark

No downside

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

How come these time travel books never do a thing where Hitler wins WWII, the Nazis take over a good chunk of central europe, Japan takes over a chunk of Asia. 5-10 years elapse. WWIII starts in the 1950s and everything reverts

Velo-ing

Ahhh they're doing a Wolfenstein (2014)

gellaho

Watching you guys think you have these books figured out is always fun for me

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Stop trying to throw me off, I'm right about 80% of the time

Velo-ing

I'm betting we don't fix this

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

...yes?

Velo-ing

I'm betting the cliffhanger is 'but we still need to stop hitler'

FancyShark

okay, I think I'm caught up

gellaho

All roads lead to HTML, CSS, and Javascript apparently

FancyShark

Here are the Atrocimeter standings

Total Active Atrocities:

-Titanic - 1517 dead

-Foster's last team - 3 dead

-9/11 - 2996 times infinity

-Accidents with tube children - ~150

-Tomas and Ethan teleporter accident - 2

-Mocking the disabled - 1

-Toying with a dying child - 1

-Mocking the Irish dead - 2

-Timetravel kills the traveler - 5+

-Shrek - 1

-Sal hates the Final Countdown - 1

-Fuckin' Nazi Party - 1

-No cellphones - 3

Time Out

-JFK Assassination - 2

Velo-ing

Add another holocaust

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

Its funny because theres literally no way you could turn the war around for Germany by '45, not even with future tech.

FancyShark

Total Active Atrocities:

-Titanic - 1517 dead

-Foster's last team - 3 dead

-9/11 - 2996 times infinity

-Accidents with tube children - ~150

-Tomas and Ethan teleporter accident - 2

-Mocking the disabled - 1

-Toying with a dying child - 1

-Mocking the Irish dead - 2

-Timetravel kills the traveler - 5+

-Shrek - 1

-Sal hates the Final Countdown - 1

-Fuckin' Nazi Party - 1

-No cellphones - 3

-Another Holocaust - 11 million

Time Out

-JFK Assassination - 2

wait

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

give that kid a ray gun

gellaho

Good thing they went back to 43 then

FancyShark

there we go

Velo-ing

Thank you Shark

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

oh get wrecked sausage, gellaho just DESTROYED you with FACTS and LOGIC

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

'43 either.

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Yeah, you gotta jump in at 1938 or sooner

gellaho

Nazis worse at space confirmed

Velo-ing

I was worried we might have to break some very rough news to you

Brendan!™

Everyzing fine at Giant Marble Tower, no breaking news, let's go to Hildegart mit a dog which it can bark Deutschland Uber Alles?? Ha ha ha! Ist unglaublich!

FancyShark

wait, another holocaust means at least two

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

Ideally youd do it before WW1 simply because Germany didnt have a manufacturing base to support a peer war after that.

FancyShark

Updating that stat to 22 million

gellaho

Don't include the Holocaust

Velo-ing

No wait keep it at 11

FancyShark

oh, okay

Brendan!™

Well they killed all the rocket scientists.

gellaho

Wait for the book to get where it's going

FancyShark

Endless 9/11 still stands at 2996 times Infinity

Brendan!™

It's just Werner von Braun and a calculator.

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

oh I get it, Shrek got delayed again because the State Censors forced Mike Myers to do a german accent

Velo-ing

Oh no

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

We're 5,000 chapters in!!! THE PLOT HAS TO START NOW

gellaho

How many times do I have to say a scientist from 2066 brought back future technology

Velo-ing

I've shifted from trying to predict the book to trying to predict the authors biases and I do not like where this is going

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

30 or 40 more should do it

FancyShark

I mean, it's a fun sentence

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

That future technology was a toaster with bluetooth speakers

FancyShark

I can help you there. The answer is "outside".

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

I hope the scientist brought back a couple factories in his pocket or all the fancy future tech isnt going to help.

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

sausage is really focused on the details here

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

I like details.

gellaho

And Nazis are known to be truthful with their government sanctioned media

Velo-ing

This book deserves a viking funeral

Brendan!™

And they took longer to capitalize on it than we did to figure it out.

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Some factories, a few warehouses of materials, some educators to bring the labor force up to speed...

FancyShark

Nobody say it

Brendan!™

In that it should be premature.

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

Time travel stories are inherently stupid and detail oriented, its really just meeting a piece of media on its own terms.

Brendan!™

Maddy forgets 400 years of US history.

Velo-ing

Yeah I made it my bio

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

I just need you to focus on the details of what happened to shrek

Velo-ing

Yes but this author is really bad at research

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Nobody tell Maddy that a large number of Americans were sympathetic to the Nazis, they just didn't want to get involved, and they didn't like how loudly Hitler yelled sometimes

gellaho

Just send off the 16 year old to recon the 1956 Nazi invasion of America

Velo-ing

To be fair he yelled really loud

Brendan!™

In this universe his name is Schreck and he lives under a bridge and he is from Italy.

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

Nobody mention the German-American Bund.

Fuck I just did.

Fuck time travel is so hard.

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

why would you not pick someone who knows history for this job

I mean my god foster

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

It's like those republicans who this Trump is really gaudy, but still agree with everything he says

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

you're sending a teenager who just heard about nazis to spy on the nazis

Brendan!™

But if you do, mention that American hero who got up in an arena of Nazis to tackle that shit head-on.

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

Its his tiny, hypnotic hands.

Brendan!™

https://www.timesofisrael.com/when-a-jewish-laborer-took-on-20000-us-nazis-in-madison-square-garden/

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

You know, I also have small hands, so I can't really fault him for that. I will make fun of his everything else

Velo-ing

Are we going to assassinate hitler?

FancyShark

What's a hitler

gellaho

FILL THE TIME TUBE

Velo-ing

Tell me we're going to assassinate hitler

Brendan!™

Even the mob pitched in https://allthatsinteresting.com/meyer-lansky-punch-a-nazi

FancyShark

Unfortunately, they download the database from Guam and the entirety of their information is one page

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

Also worthy of admiration is the Jewish strongman who beat up a bunch of Nazis with a bat, Joe Greenstein.

Joe Greenstein ruled.

Velo-ing

I will take back everything I have said about this book if we go on a wacky adventure to assassinate alternate universe hitler

gellaho

Trust your cyborg slave

FancyShark

I'm saving this for when I need a pick-me-up

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

"ok bob has downloaded the database... he says 'the upcoming film Shrek has been delayed due to themes which go against the spirit of the 1000-year reich"

they have to rewrite it to make farquaad the hero unfortunately

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

Nazi Shrek is the same film but Shrek is magically transformed into an Aryan superman.

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

but myers is allowed to keep his funny scottish accent as long as he's brutally murdered at the end

gellaho

Seems like there should be a better way to do this

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

So Shrek 2.

Also I feel like Nazis taking over America wouldnt necessarily decrease the amount of terrorism in the 20th century.

gellaho

And a fun reminder that Liam is afraid of drowning after nearly dying in the Titanic

FancyShark

hahaha, wuss

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

it just wouldn't be the same terrorism

like when you get a frozen version of a meal your parents used to cook for you

gellaho

It's hard to do 9/11 when the towers don't exist

FlippantSausages Daddy Lightning

New York has plenty of tall buildings to 9\11 the shit out of.

VernoWhitney

Jet fuel can't melt marble either.

Velo-ing

We could do so many 9/11s if we just believed in ourselves

Brendan!™

Can't they just rescue/recruit all these MIA special forces dudes instead of traumatized teens?

gellaho

Not sure how he's supposed to observe what's happening inside the white house, but sure

Brendan!™

Or is that too Hawke?

Velo-ing

Just run up to the window and take a gander

FancyShark

They'd ask questions

Brendan!™

A small corpse of wet manure

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

my guess is the time riders have been going at this so long they have already used every good candidate in all of history, and this is them going through the C-grade and below recruits

Velo-ing

Liam stop yelping this is a stealth mission

Brendan!™

Why don't they just transmit light and air vibrations back from the white house instead of sending a teen boy who is being killed by the journey?

Hamb$ne
FancyShark

That's what they'll put on [INSERT TARGET NAME HERE]'s epitaph

gellaho

BRING ME CLOTHES

Brendan!™

Terminator Bob

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Why are we in 1956?

VernoWhitney

Maybe boots and a motorcycle, too?

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

That's not where the Hitler is?

Brendan!™

A small corpse of Wet Bob

Velo-ing

That's a very good question

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

I think they're going to the point where alternate hitler conquered the U.S

presumably they don't know where the branching event was so they just need intel

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

They already know it happened! You don't need to get closer to the toilet to know there's shit in it. Go back to WWII and make him lose again

gellaho

Some fun for the kids

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

yeah but they need to make sure every horrible thing happened exactly the same

otherwise there'll be no 9/11!

Velo-ing

"I found a corpse" said Bob

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

"and stripped him"

gellaho

They're trying to figure out when the change happened. The Nazi invasion of America was the furthest event mentioned in the Nazi news, but that doesn't mean it's the what they need to fix. They're trying to figure that out

Velo-ing

"I also looted several others."

gellaho

Unlike us, they don't know a scientist in 2066 went back in time

FancyShark

How many bodies did he loot?

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

exactly

FancyShark

I need to know for the stats

Velo-ing

They should check my bio

gellaho

Dos

Velo-ing

2

FancyShark

Danke

Velo-ing

I like the world building of...

...

...

I hope there's some world building soon

gellaho

GIANT NAZI DISK

Velo-ing

There we go

Oh shit it's a nazi ufo

It's Iron Sky all over again

FancyShark

AAAAAGGGHHHHH!

Oh wait, you said DISK

gellaho

Yellow gas is always a good sign

Brendan!™

The nazis have a ufo in 1956 but didn't bother with the moon until 1979

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Oh shit they got Stanley Cups

FancyShark

Tactical smoke screen, so it's got rails

Brendan!™

No! Cpl. Stanley Cups was pivotal in the battle of the Bulge!

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

it seems to run on propellors

Velo-ing

Hey Bob have you considered shutting up

"There's smoke there" thanks Bob

I would be lost without you, Bob

FancyShark

Have you considered learning how to swim, Liam?

BOB BURN

Velo-ing

I'm so glad you're my steadfast guide through the past, Bob

gellaho

Nazis descend on fart systems

gellaho
FancyShark

This technology would later find its way to cannon form in South America

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

lol good job nazi

Velo-ing

ahahahaha one of them just fucking died in a tree for no reason

gellaho

Nazi science strikes again

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

it's like sausage said, you can bring back all the future tech you want, but if the locals don't know how to use it or build it it's not gonna go great

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Ah yes. The future Nazi gimp has arrived

And he's dead

gellaho

Bob got his gun from Halo

FancyShark

Bob cuts the nazi corpse down and teabags it

Brendan!™

I have a zero-energy fast-descent system called GRAVITY.

gellaho

Bob uses karate

FancyShark

Bobrate

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

I don't believe it

FancyShark

Judo BOB

Brendan!™

The Gang Graverobs Universe-B D.B. Cooper's Corpse

gellaho

Are we having fun, children?

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

yeah so we have an ultra-capable robot with no personality and a useless tagalong, awesome

super cool

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Thine alabaster cities gleam, unstained by human tears

Or however the damn song goes

gellaho

Weird that the one who travels through time has a last name that includes "Connor"

FancyShark

I think the next verse is "I done told you once, you sonuvabitch | I'm the best there's ever been"

Velo-ing

That's called T2: Judgement Day

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

"to be clear, I know exactly what we should do."

"Can you tell me?"

"No."

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

first of all how dare you

jakesy, aristocrat of crime

"I'm sorry, I'm just a chatbot and can't give you advice on KILLIN NAZIS"

gellaho

"Imagine what that might be like, kids!"

VernoWhitney

Hey, no personal calls on company time!

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

probably obvious based on what they're saying Liam

Velo-ing

Maybe if this generation weren't so focused on their typewriters they wouldn't be losing an invasion to nazis

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

these damn baby boomers don't even know how to write on a chalk slate

VernoWhitney

I think this timeline prevents Boomers. I'll give it a chance.

Velo-ing

Are we going to Alamo the White House like in Modern Warfare 2?

gellaho

If it's that easy, gotta wonder why it took thirteen years

Brendan!™

I mean it worked in After the Revolution.

gellaho

Liam immediately tells the first person he's talked to that he's from the future

Brendan!™

They gave Liam no intel, no mission objectives. Just have fun watching Ike get crushed by the military-industrial komplexzen

Brendan!™

Liam stealing my best pickup line.

VernoWhitney

No, you're from the past.

Velo-ing

Months?

It took Months to get from New England to DC?

God this author sucks at research

gellaho

Turns out Hiffler's dead

FancyShark

oh shit, I forgot!

Hi, @jakesy, aristocrat of crime !

FancyShark

Mr. Hilter?

Velo-ing

I can't believe Liam hasn't said Jayzus once this whole time

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

Liam proving once again he is not only unqualified for this, he is THE MOST unqualified for this

gellaho

Well, got the information. Probably should get out of here

jakesy, aristocrat of crime

Hiffler was the fuhrers mechanic

Brendan!™

Alright, tell me something, Future Boy: who's president in 2001?

Uhhhh...Woodrow Wilson Jr.

Woodrow Wilson Jr.? The ACTOR?

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

so hitler was too much of a stubborn idiot asshole to team up with the future guy, so the future guy killed him and took over himself, right?

FancyShark

Trying to thread the needle on time travel while alternate realities blink in and out of existence

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Hitler was famously stubborn and idiot, this tracks

Brendan!™

Kneel before your master, GARY SZIESLWSKI, worms!

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

"just for the sake of argument," the author mutters in his sleep over and over. His wife beside him mentally rehearses her plan - keys, go-bag, garage, leave.

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

So here we learn that histoy diverged exactly when we thought it diverged. Good job, you wasted 7 years off of Liam's life for nothing

Velo-ing

To be fair it diverged one year after we thought it diverged

Brendan!™

It'll all be worth it if he tries McDonald's when it was still good.

gellaho

In the future, Sal immediately figures out why Hitler is never mentioned in the Nazi archives, making the whole trip pointless

gellaho
Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

[then just wait it out]

gellaho

Which is great for Liam, who is being killed by time travel

Brendan!™

Decent quote though.

Velo-ing

[waiting things out in Nazi germany is a really bad plan]

Brendan!™

You'd think there vould be ORDER

gellaho

To be really fair, it actually diverted in 1943

Because of the text in this book

Velo-ing

You're right our characters still don't have a useful answer

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Get another sea orphan! It will take about 5 minutes to give him the same amount of historical knowledge

Velo-ing

Fuck it, save those 5 minutes

Give the orphan a gun, chuck him back in time

It'll sort itself out

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Eh, he's a straight, white, cis man with no political opinions. He'll be fine

FancyShark

So the book doesn't have a Hitler assassination because "he fell"?

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

"God, these Nazis really suck at laying out a Web page"

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Still do!

FancyShark

He's Irish and dying of time cancer. He's getting super laid.

Velo-ing

He's one of the types of white that nazis would hate and he doesn't speak german

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

(just a reminder he is a child)

Velo-ing

Is he though

Is he

FancyShark

Marginally laid

VernoWhitney

They're aging him up quickly to get around that.

gellaho

Liam's having a great time

Velo-ing

oh god they are

Mmm throaty rifles

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

sexy pulse rifles

FancyShark

Ouch. Throat burrs

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Ah yes, the "this 16 year old was frozen for 100 years so that makes him 116" loophole

But don't worry, he's definitely an adult in the sequel, gamers

gellaho

It's Bob happening

Brendan!™

Maybe Hitler died because he was a 19-year-old who traveled through time to make himself dictator.

Velo-ing

God it would be so funny if Bob died and Liam got time stranded and the rest of the book is just dealing with that

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

It's Bob happening.

these are some unintentionally hilarious quotes

FancyShark

Alt-universe Bob Hope?

gellaho

Ripped em apart

Velo-ing

Bob fucks

gellaho

Bob has Wolverine powers

Velo-ing

And it's a problem

FancyShark

Fuck yes

Bob is the Doom Slayer

Brendan!™

What idiot named this useful killbot Bob, but the one that likes to drown Nazis Rip?

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

JAYZUS

WE HAVE A JAYZUS

Velo-ing

9

VernoWhitney

"You are the mission operative, Liam, but you're not the boss of me."

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

It will heal in 3 days, but the timeline is only 2 days long, so he will have the wound forever

Velo-ing

"Only a total bitch can't take a few bullets" Bob said, staring accusingly at Liam

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

"to reiterate, I have no authority to make command decisions but I can perfectly assess that you are fucking this mission's ass off."

gellaho

Liam's got an idea, I'm sure this will go great

Velo-ing

"I look forward to my blood un-clotting every time we start the timeloop again."

FancyShark

Time travel is Eliquis

Human Mammalian Hybrid Vooster

Sounds like sucking boba through a straw

gellaho

The brilliant plan is for Bob to pretend to be a Nazi who has captured them, can't see how this would go wrong

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

it probably doesn't work that way unfortunately, otherwise Liam wouldn't be doomed to die of time cancer

Velo-ing

Liam I think Bob might get too into this

FancyShark

Isn't Bob a little tall to be a Nazi?

Tom Owns Diebel's Grave

and a little competent?